Comments on Maureen's blog: bug or feature, I can't decide....

I also agree with Ben. Well, neither bug nor feat...

2008-04-17T23:02:00.000-04:00

I also agree with Ben. Well, neither bug nor feature. Benign side-effect.

I assume the scenario is that you can hide it from...

2008-04-17T11:12:00.000-04:00

I assume the scenario is that you can hide it from Notes 5,6, & 7 Domino Designer but just not 8.0 because of the way the $Flags field works. That being the case, the problem (if there is one) is only for Notes developers, and only for those developers who migrated to 8.0.0 or 8.0.1 AND someone somewhere has added design elements to a database with 8.5 or higher. This scenario will not be all that common. We already get a warning when we edit a design element that was maintained by a later version of Notes.. So I am pretty sure I can live with this.

If it doesn't break anything, then celebrate. Actu...

2008-04-17T09:53:00.000-04:00

If it doesn't break anything, then celebrate. Actually I think it sounds pretty cool.

Technically they are file resources. Only the 8.5 ...

2008-04-17T09:49:00.000-04:00

Technically they are file resources. Only the 8.5 engine uses them in a predefined way. So it is ok to show them in 8.0 since file resources are valid design elements in R8. Interesting question however: if u add a file (lets say an xpg for xpage) in 8.0 would that then show up under xPages in 8.5?
:-) stw

I'm with Ben but for a different reason. Anything ...

2008-04-17T09:14:00.000-04:00

I'm with Ben but for a different reason. Anything that can make 8.5 faster to market while not hindering the quality of 8.5, I'm all for it. I'd rather the effort be spent on a better/faster 8.5 than backwards compatibility in Designer.

I seem to disagree with most of the other posters....

2008-04-17T08:44:00.000-04:00

I seem to disagree with most of the other posters. While it is true that editing in a previous release will mess things up, that has been true of each new design element or structural element (e.g., layers before Notes 6). Traditionally, they have been accesible anyway in previous versions. While it seems esoteric, I have used this capability before to access image resources or subforms as forms, for example, since my extensions can work with the elements even if the Notes client can't. Just my two cents.

I'd agree with the previous commenters. If this is...

2008-04-17T03:08:00.000-04:00

I'd agree with the previous commenters. If this is going to allow me to break things in the 8.0 Designer then they should be hidden or at least locked somehow.

I guess the model for this would be how the Composite Apps work in the 7.x client, in that they don't show at all.

Given the ND track record in release compatibility...

2008-04-17T02:59:00.000-04:00

Given the ND track record in release compatibility I think this should be solved.
If it is 8.5 functionality without an equivalent in 8, just hide it in 8.
However if it does have an equivalent in 8, fix it.
My 2 cts.

I recommend to fix this. Otherwise there is chance...

2008-04-17T01:47:00.000-04:00

I recommend to fix this. Otherwise there is chance that I can break stuff using the 8.0 Designer.
If there are 8.5 elements I cannot work with in 8.0, hide them.