tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post4029604393133488329..comments2008-09-23T04:04:08.465-04:00Maureenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08783404920615182265noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-34737671018890356762008-09-23T04:04:00.000-04:002008-09-23T04:04:00.000-04:002008-09-23T04:04:00.000-04:00Drop it. I've don't use it often. <BR/>There should also be a clear and clean line between the client and designer.Kikkanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13116734140423380467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-25255537461066889412008-05-08T10:38:00.000-04:002008-05-08T10:38:00.000-04:002008-05-08T10:38:00.000-04:00I'll pile-on with the "go ahead and remove it" crew. I may have used this back in the R4 days, but it's been a long, long time ago. Thanks Maureen.Keilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10980037696875702124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-90069112047296085792008-05-08T00:48:00.000-04:002008-05-08T00:48:00.000-04:002008-05-08T00:48:00.000-04:00I'm all for removing those entries because it reduces the UI clutter Notes seems to suffer under. Doing Notes development for 15+ years I'm strongly advocating for making the client experience more streamlined from an end user's point of view.Markus Dierkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12044517178867663748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-4183396287022950752008-05-07T07:34:00.000-04:002008-05-07T07:34:00.000-04:002008-05-07T07:34:00.000-04:00Just make it behave EXACTLY like the Mac and Linux clients. I can't emphasize that enough.<BR/><BR/>E-X-A-C-T-L-Y.<BR/><BR/>Then you're golden.Natehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03837751900152163669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-77607759944553219872008-05-07T07:20:00.000-04:002008-05-07T07:20:00.000-04:002008-05-07T07:20:00.000-04:00I would say remove it. I have never used it in over 12 years. I did not even know it existed.<BR/>Sounds like it is a heritage from good old R3 (not sure though).Tom Steenbergenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09192153521875055948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-6948540327328694272008-05-06T19:42:00.000-04:002008-05-06T19:42:00.000-04:002008-05-06T19:42:00.000-04:00yes, we're only considering removing it from the client - we need it in the Designer!Maureenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08783404920615182265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-81745498863726337082008-05-06T18:04:00.000-04:002008-05-06T18:04:00.000-04:002008-05-06T18:04:00.000-04:00This means that you'll remove it from the *client* only and leave it in the designer. I'll still be able to ALT+Create+Design+Form/etc in the designer, right?Vitor Pereirahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06863741949076144953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-74752442534984137182008-05-06T16:08:00.000-04:002008-05-06T16:08:00.000-04:002008-05-06T16:08:00.000-04:00This is good to hear, and I am happy to have so much to support removing this, as it would be a bit of work. We had wanted to remove it, but heard "through the grapevine" that it was a feature users felt was important... But that data seemed worth testing (and I'm very glad I did!)<BR/><BR/>In client only installs, users will still be able to create private agents/views, no worries!Maureenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08783404920615182265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-21531851387920349982008-05-06T16:07:00.000-04:002008-05-06T16:07:00.000-04:002008-05-06T16:07:00.000-04:00Some power users in organisations i visit use these options to create their own agents/views, without having a designer client (or license).Bramhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10852863559043828849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-33316893907040677632008-05-06T16:04:00.000-04:002008-05-06T16:04:00.000-04:002008-05-06T16:04:00.000-04:00I agree - I've never used it.<BR/><BR/>Did you expect these comments ? ;-)Jan Van Puyveldenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-88390730732441933152008-05-06T15:33:00.000-04:002008-05-06T15:33:00.000-04:002008-05-06T15:33:00.000-04:00get rid of it, never used it ever in 6 years of deveopmentJulianBusshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04658748896590955575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-8310618847322484072008-05-06T14:58:00.000-04:002008-05-06T14:58:00.000-04:002008-05-06T14:58:00.000-04:007+ years of developing on Domino and never used that menu. Remove it :-)Carlosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-10466858449798821602008-05-06T14:25:00.000-04:002008-05-06T14:25:00.000-04:002008-05-06T14:25:00.000-04:0015 Years of Notes development and never found it necessary to use.Peter Presnellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-88321204851484481722008-05-06T14:23:00.000-04:002008-05-06T14:23:00.000-04:002008-05-06T14:23:00.000-04:00I do not use that option either; always create from the designer client.Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-87484366886328800152008-05-06T13:15:00.000-04:002008-05-06T13:15:00.000-04:002008-05-06T13:15:00.000-04:00binge and purge! drop the nuke on it!Johnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16995240613896001246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-40312930187344672532008-05-06T12:30:00.000-04:002008-05-06T12:30:00.000-04:002008-05-06T12:30:00.000-04:00I have used this very seldom myself since I live in the Designer client, but what about users without a Designer client - how can they create a view (for example) if the menu is removed? Or am I missing something here?Jens Polsterhttp://www.domblog.denoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-26455477180773795142008-05-06T12:23:00.001-04:002008-05-06T12:23:00.001-04:002008-05-06T12:23:00.001-04:00Never used it either. My vote, pull it.jonvonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08772177801754830717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-7857675122756427342008-05-06T12:23:00.000-04:002008-05-06T12:23:00.000-04:002008-05-06T12:23:00.000-04:00Never used it in almost 10 years of N/D development. Off to the Trash!Mike McGarelhttp://www.bleedyellow.com/blogs/McGarelGramming/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-71956302341674934432008-05-06T12:08:00.000-04:002008-05-06T12:08:00.000-04:002008-05-06T12:08:00.000-04:00Never used it ten years - just asked my other developers and they've never used it either - always open the designer firstDavid Goodchildwww.alburytechnology.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-84970743266040091832008-05-06T11:59:00.000-04:002008-05-06T11:59:00.000-04:002008-05-06T11:59:00.000-04:00I very seldom use that menu and mostly open the Designer client first before creating a design element.steve mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-50939407408507136162008-05-06T11:42:00.000-04:002008-05-06T11:42:00.000-04:002008-05-06T11:42:00.000-04:00you can do that? never knew! I have used the create agent, when I didn't have designer access though..john khttp://www.governancefornotes.com/blog/governanceblog.nsfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-72032248953112871892008-05-06T11:37:00.000-04:002008-05-06T11:37:00.000-04:002008-05-06T11:37:00.000-04:00Never used it, won't miss it at all. Pull it, definitely.Rob McDonaghhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00531055903349471245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-48773381606579285262008-05-06T11:25:00.000-04:002008-05-06T11:25:00.000-04:002008-05-06T11:25:00.000-04:00I've been developing in Notes for 10 years and never used them. I have Designer open all day and do all my development there. I wouldn't miss it.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for asking!Don McNallyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17995406659448494074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-20403116619182493422008-05-06T11:22:00.000-04:002008-05-06T11:22:00.000-04:002008-05-06T11:22:00.000-04:00I never use that menu either.Tim Tripconyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08751063518063724042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8480357.post-66041784370465903312008-05-06T11:18:00.000-04:002008-05-06T11:18:00.000-04:002008-05-06T11:18:00.000-04:00In about 5 years of Domino development I've never used this feature. Like Yogi, I've always used the DB -> Open in Designer option.David Joneshttp://www.bleedyellow.com/blogs/jonesy/noreply@blogger.com